Sorry – couldn’t resist sharing this article…I know this is not about Periyava but still thought you should all know this…
This is what is called Praarabdham. Ganeshji is in the DNA of each and every Mumbai person. I am sure Ganeshji will take care of this kid! Let us get into what happened to the temple after this incident? Did they do any parihaaram for theetu etc? Found this interesting news – sharing. Read it and enjoy it!
Thanks to Vikatan for the article.
மும்பையை சேர்ந்தவர் நூர்ஜகான். அதிகாலை நான்கரை மணியளவில் பிரசவ வலியால் துடித்த இவர், தன் கணவர் இலியாஸ் ஷேக்கை எழுப்பியுள்ளார். உடனடியாக, மருத்துவமனைக்கு செல்ல டாக்சியை பிடித்துள்ளார் இலியாஸ்.
குறுகலான சந்துக்கள் நிறைந்த அப்பகுதியில் டாக்சி ஓட்டுனரால் வேகமாக செல்ல முடியவில்லை. நூர்ஜகானுக்கு பிரசவ வலி அதிகமாக, பயந்து போன டாக்சி ஓட்டுனர், இருவரையும் நடு ரோட்டில் இறக்கிவிட்டுச் சென்றுள்ளார். என்ன செய்வதென்று புரியாமல் தவித்த இலியாஸ், அருகில் இருந்த விநாயகர் கோயிலில் நூர்ஜகானை அமர வைத்துவிட்டு, மற்றொரு டாக்சியை பிடிக்கச் சென்றுள்ளார்.
பிரசவ வலியால் துடித்துக் கொண்டிருந்த நூர்ஜகானை கண்ட அங்கிருந்த பெண்கள், உடனடியாக அவரை விநாயகர் கோயிலின் உள்ளே அழைத்துச்சென்று, அருகிலிருந்த வீடுகளில் இருந்து சேலை மற்றும் படுக்கை விரிப்புகளை கொண்டுவந்து சுற்றி, அந்த இடத்தை பிரசவ அறையாக மாற்றினர்.
மூதாட்டிகள் பிரசவம் பார்க்க, சில நிமிடங்களில் அழகிய ஆண் குழந்தையின் அழுகை சத்தம் கோயிலை சூழ்ந்தது. பின்பு, மருத்துவமனைக்கு அழைத்துச் செல்லப்பட்ட தாயையும், குழந்தையையும் பரிசோதித்த மருத்துவர்கள் இருவரும் நலமாக உள்ளதாக கூறினர்.
“நான், ‘நடுரோட்டிலேயே குழந்தையை பெற்றெடுத்து விடுவேனோ’ என்று பயந்துவிட்டேன். ஆனால் அருகில் இருந்து விநாயகர் கோயிலை கண்டவுடன், கடவுளே என்னுடன் இருப்பதை உணர்ந்து தைரியமானேன்” என்று கூறியுள்ளார் நூர்ஜகான்.
“நாங்கள் என்ன செய்வதென்று புரியாமல் நடுரோட்டில் நின்று கொண்டிருந்த போதுதான், நான் அருகில் இருந்த விநாயகர் கோயிலை கண்டேன். நாங்கள் கோயில் அருகில் சென்ற போது, நாங்கள் அழைக்காமலே, அங்கிருந்த பெண்கள் ஓடி வந்து எங்களுக்கு உதவினர்” என்றார் குழந்தையின் தந்தை இலியாஸ்.
தங்களின் அன்புக் குழந்தையுடன் விளையாடிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் இலியாஸும், நூர்ஜகானும், அவனுக்கு ‘கணேஷ்’ என்று பெயர் சூட்ட முடிவெடுத்துள்ளனர்.
நாட்டில் பல இடங்களில் மதத்தையும் தாண்டி மனிதம் வாழ்கிறது.
What is prescribed in Temple Agamas will be performed as prescribed. Why get into Thiittu arguements, when we find Lord Ganesa’s and Maha Periyava’s Compassion in the great act? Let us celebrate Maha Periyava’s Life and Teachings which will certainly lead us towards Advaithic Realisation! Hara Hara Shankara, Jaya Jaya shankara!
Ram Ram. It all happened. No one has control over nature.
What our Sastras say to bring back sanctity to Ganeshji Temple
I would like to know. Regards
Mahesh, Your concluding comments were wonderful and so was the comment by Ravi.
But as I had remarked before on this platform, the central focus of this report is that the delivery conducted for a non-Hindu woman inside the Ganesh-Temple itself, which is a very rare and wonderful gesture.
I think we should have discussed only that aspect instead of side-stepping into these un-necessary arguments, over which we don’t have any say or control.
However I must thank every one who put if their view-point on this subject.
In the world we live in, we have so many positive and negative experiences. Sometimes we may not be able to follow rules because of the situation where we are in. This is one such case, where the couple were left in. They did not choose to use the temple for having a delivery. It was just a place they took refuge without any alternative. It happened by chance.
I am sure that temple management cleaned up the temple after the delivery (like what we do in our own houses), and the priest also performed purificatory rituals (punyahavachanam). That would be the right thing to do as well, unless someone trusts the couple and volunteers to host them in their house for delivering the baby.
What is important is people came together to help the poor woman instead of using religion to cause mental and physical grief to her. This fundamental message of love is central to all religions. Our Kanchi Acharayas have insisted this all the time in their messages. Aachara is very important, it should be followed. However,we need to resolve conflicts correctly so that you do not leave your aachara, but still help others, show your love when needed.
My 2 cents…
What Sri Ravi has expressed sums up beautifully as to how we should perform action.Events occur ( we people categorize them as positive and negative ).
As humans we have to rise to the occasion and act in the most ‘appropriate’ ways involving I Ethics,Righteousness and above all tuned to the ultimate universal binding factor of Love.
Om Tat Sat!
The incidence is an example of Indian hearts being beyond religion.
Also, i have read an incident given below.
Once Periyava was requested by His ardent devotees to visit a school and bless the school and students.
Unable to negate it, Periyava asked a cow & calf to lead Him on His route around the school. And was arranged and complied. The reason for the cow & calf? They sanctified the route & school as He went around the school – there were many girls of all ages in the school.
Theetu and pariharams are for all, irrespective of the religions. i did not see any religious motive in the statement. All the same, may have been avoided.
But i mention this because ‘Sastras have to be followed without questions’.
Periyava has said this many a times. One is not empowered to override or over rule sastras which ever path one may follow. Periyavalilum periyadha jnana margam? Avarukku theriyadathum unda?
an absolutely wonderful incident in the life of this couple with the blessings of lord ganesh. a must read for all the people who have biased views about the element of faith. THIS SHOWS THAT GOD IS OMNISCIENT, OMNIPOTENT AND OMNIPRESENT. —RAMESH MAHALINGAM
Through this incident, let communal amity prevail in cities like Mumbai, which is need of the time now.
Sri Ganesh Bhagavan is present in the Mooladhara Chakram of every living creature in the whole of Shrishti not only in the people of Mumbai.
May there be Shanthi,Shanthi,Shantihi !
It is really happy to read this article. Manitha neyam sagavillai.God is Omnipresent.”Nambinar kaeduvathillai
Nangu marai theerppu”. Thanks for sharing.
As correctly said by ‘Advaitha’ there is no need to discuss the ‘theetu’ and ‘pariharam’ issues here..
Probably the elders in the Mandali would have done what was required after the birth.
Maharashtrians are more liberal than us but they also follow the scriptures as taught by their elders.
You have highlighted a humanitarian act, which is the purpose of this article.
Again all these rituals have different meaning in different states.(Desaacharam)
So lets not be judgemental about anything
Thanks for sharing this Mahesh.
This report confirms that
Manitha neyam breaks all barriers and mind blocks.
Prasavathukku kovilil idam kodutha Pillayarukku namaskaram.
Samayathukku udhavi prasavam parttha punniya seelarkalulku namaskaram.
Indha reportai publish panni engalai paravasam pannina ungalukku namaskaram.
Indha anubhavathai kaatti nammai thelivu paditthina Periyavalukku namaskaram.
WOW..REALLY HAPPY AND EMOTIONAL TO READ THIS GOOD INCIDENT. JAYA JAYA SANKARA, HARA HARA SANKARA.
I do not know what do you mean by “theetu” and why is there even a need for “pariharam” here? “Let us get into what happened to the temple after this incident? Did they do any parihaaram for theetu etc?”
This event is a message sent by the omni-present universal force. See, the way the magazine-author has ended the article to tell that humanitarian and compassionate nature is the essential nature of every soul and it’s beyond ideologies. Rather, we should be curious and follow what this gifted kid does, being a blessed kid.
Advaita philosophy is simple, there is one universal force that is present all of us. If there is a need for pariharam, it should be done by us first by deleting those lines from this blog. You may delete this comment as well – as I do not have a different mode to tell this to you.
Saluting the mahaperiyava in self, your-self and everywhere-else.
Event if you intended to write, “Let us NOT get into.. ” please consider to remove those 2 sentences.
Karma marga has rituals and it needs to be followed strictly. And these rituals were given to us out of compassion from the omnipresent. And of course there is Gnana yoga path that doesn’t have rituals. Even a non-believer can start the Self inquiry and reach the divinity. But those in Gnana marga have to endure all of karmic effects. Which may not be suitable for every mindset.
The effect of Maya is so painful, the gods and rituals help us sail this life. No other religion has remedies and pooja’s like ours to soothe the karmic effects. Either we follow all of scriptures or don’t. Without our scriptures there is no Ganesh and consecration of temples. I believe Deivathin Kural has answers to many such doubts we have.
If you converse the language of maya: Rituals prepare us to witness maya in various forms and finally realize that despite of the rituals,we can be happy and contented and not “because of the rituals”. Any philosophy that advocates anything to be followed “strictly” can not be an expectation of the universal force. We all know that soul thrives on and for its inspiration always. The concept of “theetu” and “pariharam” has led to heaps of ignorance and continues to fool people. These are all man-made excuses to the so-called “adharma” activity. There is only one dharma and there is only one language – LOVE.
WE HAVE BEEN GIFTED WITH THE CONSCIOUSNESS NOT TO POLICE OTHERS BUT TO EXPERIENCE THE TRUE NATURE OF THE SELF AND REALIZE THAT SELF IS EVERYWHERE AND IN EVERYONE. YOUR WORLD AND OTHER WORLDS THAT ARE YET TO BE DISCOVERED ARE SUPER IMPOSITIONS OF THE SELF.
Ram Ram Sir,
//The concept of “theetu” and “pariharam” has led to heaps of ignorance and continues to fool people. These are all man-made excuses to the so-called “adharma” activity.//
Can you kindly quote what Sri Periyava has said in this regard? Ram Ram
Why are we bringing periyava for reference here? Whether you and your version of the SELF agree to it or not, the term “theetu” is an abused word in our the culture and provides an excuse to celebrate inequality and discards the very self in all of us. At least let us upgrade our sanskrit vocabulary and use a different word than “Theetu”. There are only possible gunas and doshas that uplifts and detracts the knowledge of self as suggested by GITA.
Ram Ram Sir, This is a forum for Sri Periyava and all I asked is what will be HH views on this which you do not want even want to talk about.
There are chapters in Deivathin Kural that addresses rituals including the Theetu that you have referenced. I agree we should not have superstitious beliefs but has to follow what is mentioned in the Sastras. Agreed? Ram Ram
Without doubt – Deivathin Kural is an important work conveying Sri Periyava’s messages for generations to come. But Sri Periyava, I believe, had not told us that Deivathin Kural must be read and practiced by all. It’s a reference and not a recipe to life.
This humble soul’s inference on the message from Sri Periyava’s life is simple – Simplicity and compassion for all. Dharma and vedic medium as the means to practice the current life. He could not restrict himself to one body or one language, for that matter to one way of living. That is why people from many cultures, without invitation, had visited him and had experienced different levels of resonance to the objectified and re-presentable self of their beliefs and illusions – otherwise referred to as GOD. The term Jagadguru needs to be understood in a holistic way and we should not restrict them to one culture, one belief and one practice but rather seek their blessings to develop an universal perspective of the ONE-SELF.
I do not expect anyone to agree with these arguments as they require some level of conditioning to your SELF. You may observe “Theetu” and continue to do “Pariharams”. Perhaps, every-time we do all these things, we could ask ourSELF’s a question. Are we an aspiring Advaith student hoping to understand the meaning of Sat-chid-ananda? Advaitha the truth of the TRUTH. Everything else is an ILLUSION and hence has to be man-made without CONSCIOUSNESS.
I guess this topic should be closed, as it moved into different direction, as I expected…..
While I agree with your response, I see the last paragraph slightly differently. To me, it seems like “you do whatever things related to theetu etc..I am not part of it as I am truly a vedantist”. If this is want you intended to write, I completely disagree with you. “In order to loosen the rope that is tied around big bundle of sticks, one needs to tie another rope much more tightly than the previous one” – this example was given by Sri Periyava in DK w.r.t loosening and removing the rope means “removing bandham”, the rope refers to karma / rituals. If anyone in today’s world believes that these theetu, parihaaram belong to set of people who haven’t understood vedanta, then you’re wrong as well. Reaching the stage of oneness with self is a process of elimination and all the karmas/rituals/aacharams/anushtanams are essential ingredients in that path. Besides mahans like Sivan Sar, Ramana Maharishi etc, I have not heard/read anyone who have attained that stage without prathayathanam…..May of today’s spiritual gurus/swamijis are promoting anti-anushtana approach to innocent public. Saying “Krishna Rama” is fine – but they need to be told on top of one’s prescribed anushtanams/karmas – not as a substitution. This is why these swmijis get more followers…
The debate was,is and will only on be the subject of the very mindset of “theetu”. Classification and usage of the word “theetu” is certainly man-made and I wish I had the vedic wisdom the confirm that nowhere the vedas have classified/defined “Theetu”. The issue with the generic “parihara” mindset is that, it makes you see the act of compassion to certain events and people as a mistake and not endorsed by the universal force, and as if you are seeking an apology. It is my humble request to everyone not to have this very bhava of “theetu” towards people and yourSELF. I hope the SELF-in-you ponders on this when the time is right!
I am expressing my point of view based on my experiences. I did not question any karma-anushtana. And, I will never speak about any Swamiji.
I greatly respect the composed and matured response from your end. Thank you for enabling a platform to exchange different points of views.
Thanks Mahesh for sharing this nice incident telling that God is just one who is very kind and compassionate and comes to the rescue!!
jai jai jai jai ganapathi deva
Yesterday I was at Sri Maha Periyava’s Adhistanam, and during that Tim I heard the Muslim prayer from the mosque nearby so loud and clear. And to me it felt like even allahu akbar is also so appropriate prayer for our Periyava.and he can prayed as Allah as well!
It is great. God is always there. He is various form.
May I once again request some compassionate Atman to translate this article?
Most certainly Sri Sai Srinivasan will do the needful.
Dhanyvaadam in advance.
Ram Ram – A touching article that came recently in a popular Tamil Weekly called Vikatan. Sincere apologies for any typos or mistakes. Lord Ganesha has ordered to start my day at work with this translation. Ram Ram.
Smt. Noorjahan lives in Mumbai. She was pregnant, around 4.30am started having cramps and woke up her husband Shri.Ilias who was sleeping. Shri.Ilias immediately got a taxi to go to the hospital.
The taxi was navigating through small roads and could not proceed fast according to the situation. Smt. Noorjahan started cramping more and the taxi driver got scared, got them out of his car, left them on the road and went away. Shri. Ilias was helpless and not knowing what to do next saw a Ganapathy temple near by. He left Smt. Noorjahan there and went to catch another taxi.
Seeing the pain of Smt. Noorjahan the neighborhood women took her inside the temple, got blankets and sarees from nearby homes and got ready for the delivery.
The elderly women did her the delivery and Smt. Noorjahan delivered a beautiful baby boy whose crying sound surrounded the temple. Later she was taken to hospital. The doctor upon checking mother and kid said they were doing fine.
Smt Noorjahan says, “I was so scared that I will deliver the baby in the road. But when I saw Vinayagar temple nearby, I felt confident that God was with me.”
Shri.Ilias says, “We were left stranded in the middle of the road without knowing what to do, I saw Vinayaga temple. When we went near the temple the neighborhood women came and helped us even without we asking for help.”
The parents were happily playing with their loving son and has decided they will name their son “Ganesh”.
In our country all these compassionate incidents happen despite all the religious tussles.
Namaskaram Sri Sai Srinivasan Ji!
My heartfelt and very grateful Dhanyvadam to you for promptly translating the full article from Tamizh into English.
How does one repay such Nishkaam Karmam?
Eeshvaroraksha and Dhanyavadam to you.
//How does one repay such Nishkaam Karmam?//
By chanting Rama Rama.
Periyava Thiruvalidgal Charanam! Ram Ram
Namaskaram Sri Sai Srinivasan Ji!
Reading the comments illustrates the goodness in human hearts.
If all of us act with compassion,kindness and spirituality towards every living creature then that is what Dharma is about.
However,people start making one rule for ‘themselves’ and another for others then the problem begins.
We Sanatanis are by far the most ‘awakened’ in ways of spirituality.
This is not being said with any arrogance or false pride.
And yet again let us not overdo by adopting alien maargams.
There is Truth in what both Advaita as well as SriAnanth have said.
Let each one be true to his own SELF!
Sarva dharmaan parithyajya maamekam sharanamvraja,,
Aham tvaam Sarva-papebhyo mokshayisyami ma suchah!
This is what we are taught from our childhood.
And Sanatana Dharma has always shown the Path Of Truth to the world at large!
Excellent Smt. Vijaya. Ram Ram!
Thank you very much… i was happy reading it
It is a wonderful experience It is due totheir poorjanma palan that Noorjehan gave birth to a baby boy and it is wonderful that the couple have named the child as Ganesh
Tears rolled down my eyes reading this.
Thank You Mahesh for posting.